deadlygoals: Len aka <user name="tsundereban" site="plurk.com"> (☠3)
deadlygoals ([personal profile] deadlygoals) wrote in [community profile] antumbrac2020-02-01 09:06 pm

After Trial Mingle




[ Seems like everyone is either hiding from any blood bending, wanting to take the time to think, or just doing their on thing after a trial as long as that one is. So here's a general mingle for after the trial or the rest of the weekend. ]
drydrown: the magna carta's a nice suggestion (HAUGHTY ♡ judging like john marshall)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Good.

[Cumore is kind of a capricious asshole, it's sort of hard to tell how much that means to him. But he does seem to accept it, at the very least.]

We're going to win here, simply because we don't have any choice. But in the end, the reason why will matter reasonably little as long as we win.
inordertobelieve: (stern: making an argument)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. Every one of us has their additional reasons to want to win this fight and some of those I don't even want to know... but it's the end result that counts. It's good that most everyone can agree on that much.

It's going to be very satisfying to see her punished.
drydrown: we have no use for you here (TCH ♡ looks like you've been busy)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
It will.

[...]

What do you plan on doing after the fact? Simply lying down and dying? You were commenting on having nothing to return to.
inordertobelieve: (emotional: important talk)

suicidal ideation cw

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
[ wow, don't put it so unfavorably. ]

I'd choose different words, but yes. My life is already over. I don't plan on dying before she gets what's coming for her, if I can at all help it, but I don't plan on surviving either.
drydrown: the magna carta's a nice suggestion (HAUGHTY ♡ judging like john marshall)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
And what point will there be in that?

I'm not asking why you believe that to be an option. I'm asking what purpose it will serve.
inordertobelieve: (warehouse: shock)

suicidal ideation cw

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ There's silence here, genuinely stunned. Mikami has a thousand reasons why criminals and sinners need to die, so now that he's become one of them, naturally he needs to die as well. But then, when he goes through the reasons one by one, they don't really apply.

1. So they won't hurt somebody else again. The most important reason. Justice needs to be served and the world needs to be cleansed of negative influences. But then... Mikami knows himself and even without his memories of his crime, he knows he wouldn't repeat it.

2. To set an example for other possible criminals. But nobody knows Mikami did this. Nobody knows he is here either. The example will reach nobody.

3. To bring peace to the hearts of the victims. But Light Yagami, Kira, is already dead. There is nothing that could bring peace to him now. Mikami knows this all too well.

And that means he just has to die because he hasto, because it's consistent and because, plain and simple and pathetic, he can't live with himself.

That's... why can't he give an easy answer? Why is his throat so dry as his carefully constructed morality ties itself into knots around the implications of the multiverse? ]


I... You've always asked me to prove my conviction. What kind of justice would it be if I exempted myself from it?

[ He hasn't even told Cumore about his crimes yet, but that seems secondary, now that he can't justify himself any other way. ]
drydrown: we have no use for you here (TCH ♡ looks like you've been busy)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe I just asked you to not die pointlessly. Does your word mean that little, with regards to that?

[He's not at all surprised to hear that Mikami's done something hideous. He liked to flaunt his status as a prosecutor at the start, and people who base their importance on status have almost always done hideous things in Cumore's experience. Maybe he's not as bad as Ragou ended up being; maybe he's not even as bad as Cumore is currently. Maybe he's worse. Who knows, and more importantly who cares.]

I'm not offering you comfort or an escape from whatever it is you did. I doubt you would want such a thing anyway. But are we leaving the decision of what should be done to the criminals up to the criminals themselves now?
inordertobelieve: (warehouse; emotional: oh no)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Mikami wants to protest, debate that he won't die pointlessly here as long as all this mess is ongoing, but then this conversation keeps going like a tram with a broken gas pedal and he's left speechless.

Just kind of staring at Cumore with wide vulnerable eyes that Cumore did not ask for and is still receiving. ]


I've already been judged. I was going to die in my world, I...

[ He's not there anymore. Oh God. ]
drydrown: the magna carta's a nice suggestion (HAUGHTY ♡ judging like john marshall)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Many of us weren't judged and deemed deserving of death, but we've been dying quite a lot here. Our worlds matter reasonably little here, in the end.

We can decide what should be done with you after we're finished here. [...Sort of begging the question of who the fuck "we" are in that sentence, but he'll either figure that out when he gets there or he'll be too dead to care. Either way, that is clearly a problem for future Cumore.] If nothing else, I won't leave you without an answer, and if it's any consolation I don't tend to be generous with regards to my sentencing.

For now I do believe you're right to keep our efforts focused on the Lady. We can solve the rest when we come to it. Just bear in mind that returning to our own worlds might not even be an option.
inordertobelieve: (emotional: a friend is made)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Speechlessness continues though Mikami at least doesn't look like he's about to break down anymore and is slowly regaining some semblance of control over his facial features. Phrases like 'you've judged me enough already' come to mind as being appropriate responses here, but he's somehow not feeling it. ]

I would not go back even if it was and even if I... [ was sentenced to live by you...??? ] I wouldn't go back.

In that sense, it does not matter to me. But ideally we seize her power of interdimensional travel for ourselves and return those of you who want to go back. I'll be putting my energy towards that for the time being.
drydrown: the magna carta's a nice suggestion (HAUGHTY ♡ judging like john marshall)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ideally, yes. I can't imagine being content here, personally, so if I can go back to Terca Lumireis I have every intention of doing so.

[...That isn't to say this hasn't been interesting, but god, he wants to leave.]

But if it's your world that wants you dead and you're removing yourself from it, there isn't any sense in removing yourself from all others as well.

[...]

...It matters little to me what you end up doing, but watching potential waste itself tends to annoy me.
inordertobelieve: (neutral: very focused)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Mikami swallows dryly and nods. ]

I'll have ample time to keep thinking about this. And I will hold you to your promise of judgment, regardless of whether or not I end up heeding the advice.

[ He's not fallen so low from his usual self that he'd put up the opinion of Cumore on any sort of pedestal, but he is... maybe curious to see what will be made of the man he is now, judged only for actions he's taken past his failure in his world. ]

The situation has... certainly changed from when I was merely in my world and didn't suspect the existence of any others.
drydrown: but how much do you want it? (STARE ♡ you can have it all)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
As Captain of the Imperial Knights, it's well within my right and my authority to condemn and execute criminals if I see fit to do so. I won't hold back my judgment for the sake of anything inane like sparing your feelings; you of all people should know by now that I'll tell you if I believe you to be worthless.

It's a bit of a shame that I won't get to play with you if that ends up being the decision. But I don't think most here would let me get away with it.

[so, you know. sadist's gonna want to be sadistic no matter how much fun he thinks you are, but at least he'll be blunt with you regarding judgment itself.]

The important thing is that we're both alive at the end of this. I can handle that much if you can.
inordertobelieve: (stern: ignoring you)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Ah. There it is, something familiar to latch onto. Cumore's sadism is appreciated as much as it is condemned here, because it makes Mikami roll his eyes in disdain and that makes him feel almost like a person. ]

I will be there. You can count on it.

[ And frowning: ] I may strongly advocate harsh penalties, but I have too much dignity left to let you play. Which is a disgusting word choice.
drydrown: (WINK ♡ rip you all to pieces of course!)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Truly, you wound me.

[He laughs a bit, though. You're cute, Mikami.]

You're welcome to think it's repulsive. But it's precious if you think any of my toys are in a position to give me permission. The condemned don't really get much of a say.

Don't worry, though. I'll be nice and I won't do that to you, I promise.
inordertobelieve: (disgusted: ew demegawa)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Brrr, that's creepy. Mikami makes a face kind of like he stepped into something gross. ]

One can always die before you have your way.

[ Unless they're too pathetic to do that, too busy begging.... Yeah, Mikami doesn't actually have a lot of compassion to spare either. He's not a good person, he just doesn't think torture is appealing. ]

Whatever 'your way' may entail.
drydrown: congratulations! (BOW ♡ it's fucking nothing!)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose they could, but not everyone is as hardened as you like to be.

[zero empathy brigade represent, tbh...]
inordertobelieve: (neutral: what is holy)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That's their bad then. They could exercise their power over themselves to get away from you and choose not to.

[ Is he arguing against Cumore's bragging? Against the convicts? Both? All? Who knows. ]
drydrown: (WINK ♡ rip you all to pieces of course!)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Granted, I also usually don't give them the opportunity. Many of my arrests are for things like high treason; I'm rather good at capturing people who have gone to great lengths to ensure they won't be found.

[Skills: hunting.]

After all that, it would be a waste to let them get away from me in any capacity.
inordertobelieve: (neutral: attentive)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-03 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There's always a way if there is the appropriate determination.

[ He didn't even know he had strong opinions about this, but projecting? is a thing now. On this. Somehow. ]

But I see, that's the kind of crime you usually deal with. I had been wondering. I specialize in common violent crime rather than political matters, for the most part.
drydrown: we have no use for you here (TCH ♡ looks like you've been busy)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-03 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on what's happening within the Empire at the moment. I prefer political matters, but sometimes I'll be expected to deal with pettier things if nothing is demanding my time at the moment.

[And sometimes Alexei tells him to go kill what amounts to a giant talking turkey in the desert because...Reasons? Because Alexei is mildly insane? Who even knows.]
inordertobelieve: (neutral: a declaration)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-04 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I see. Your form of government appears to be structured fairly differently from what I'm used to.

[ No wonder if you're from 'guns are unreliable and we love bow and arrows' land. ]

There used to be Empires in my world but that was before I was even born. Political matters these days tend to be structured more localized.
drydrown: we have no use for you here (TCH ♡ looks like you've been busy)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-04 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
...How do you get anything done.

[like seriously you can't usually get your average three people to agree on what we're having for dinner tonight

much less larger entities]
inordertobelieve: (neutral: very focused)

[personal profile] inordertobelieve 2020-02-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of paperwork.

[ Oceans of paper, Cumore, oceans. Not that Mikami dislikes this, he finds forms calming to fill. ]

Everything is subject to strict filing and documentation processes on every level. It takes time and storage area, but it ensures that decisions remain comprehensible and hold up to scrutiny even years later.
drydrown: the magna carta's a nice suggestion (HAUGHTY ♡ judging like john marshall)

[personal profile] drydrown 2020-02-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
That seems like such a waste of time. In Terca Lumireis, the Empire owns most of the world; the only reason things get inconvenient for us at the moment is if there's some sort of rebellion, which is usually easily crushed, or if the Council and our Commandant can't come to an agreement. We don't have an Emperor currently, so that latter one tends to cause...well. As you mentioned, a large amount of paperwork.

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